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. >> samsung electronics operates a fifth straight quarter, but sales flip. >>> and government is on track for the austerity measures as angela merkel gives up -- for election. >>> and aig just finished off paying off its massive bailout, but the company is now weighing on whether to sue the u.s. government over that very rescue. >> now 2013. >> it's been so long. how long has it been? >> months. >> better make the most of it, though. >> two days. >> yeah. two days. >> then it's onward. >> anyway, look, we're here. i still don't know what time zone and country i'm in. >> there was snow, right? >> there was. it was beautiful. >> on today's show, we hone in on samsung in seoul. i'm all frufterred because you're back. the electronic giant will expand its lead over apple this year. >> and we've got our chips in. and we'll head out to las vegas for the latest on the consumer electronics show. >> the trade deficit widens to its largest level in five years. >> and we'll get the latest from wall street on just how happy a new year bankers are likely to have. >> i hope it's not that happy. some wil
, not a month, every single day. that is what samsung is selling. why is the undisputed leader in the smartphones market. >> it is 12:00 noon in london, 7:00 a.m. in washington, d.c., 2:00 p.m. in the cairo, on a ridge with significance. two years from the uprising that toppled the mubarak regime, egypt democratically elected president, muhammad morsi, faces his own challenge. here is a live shot from the tahrir square, where thousands are gathered. it has been a tumultuous two years for egypt, marked by political infighting, protests, a deepening economic crisis. critics of president morsi 1 radical change to egypt's new constitution. we can cross live now to cairo to our correspondent. it is the two-year anniversary. one might think that would be cause for celebration, but it seems the mood is different where you are in tahrir square. >> yes, it is. president morsi called for today to be a day for egyptians to come together in celebration, but it is a different scene in tahrir square. let me show you friday prayers a short while ago. the numbers are into the thousands. if you
plunging how can you invest in its smartphone rival samsung? tracy byrnes and ashley webster have the answers next on fox business. don't miss it. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. tracy: good afternoon, i'm tracy byrnes. ashley: i'm ashley webster. apple falling hard. the stock dropping nearly 12% on fears the company, well, is losing out to smartphone rival samsung. that raises the question how can you invest in samsung? we're looking for options in moments. it is not that easy. tracy: it is not. there is no adr. the odd man out months after nasdaq and i.c.e. teamed up in a failed bid to take over the new york stock exchange, nyse and i.c.e. are going it alone. bob fwri felled shares his reaction with liz claman from davos. that is ahead. ashley: a dire warning from the economy from a top advisor to president bush. ed lazear is here. he says we need to take dressic action right away. nothing happens in washington right away. tracy: unless its hundred of orders, or vacations. tracy: as we do
in tech? i think nature here, apple is looking across at samsung, competing hard with samsung and starting to adopt sam sung's policies and practices and samsung is a broadband, more of a value brand and segment. melissa: looking right now, the market share, what we've seen and it has just been a huge jump. in 2011, samsung's market share was 22% to apple's 13. if you look what happened in 2012, samsung has jumped all the way to 31%, a huge jump. another 10%. meanwhile apple just ticked up two points, to 15. seems like samsung is really eating their lunch and apple should go back to what has worked for them, instead of trying to do this other thing, right? maybe they can't? maybe they're out of ideas? their trademark was amazing innovation. is that gone with steve jobs? >> well, what steve wozniak beliefs, when steve jobs passed a lot of people that created innovation with apple left the company and, but they were there to be with jobs. so the end result, what's left isn't capable of innovating like jobs innovated. the other issue though is recognize that porsche, doesn't compete with mark
the cyberattacks on our nation's banks. connell: the man behind the iphone killer, samsung's chief product officer bringing his plans for the galaxy phone. dagen: a new court ruling on rfid tags at school and why your kids may have to wear them. connell: and more on this vicious flu outbreak is keeping both kids and their parents at home. dagen: don't look at me. i'm saying nothing. you should be appreciate the moment. connell: pretty much -- a lot of people have the flu, huh? that is a rare moment when you're quiet. dagen: do not come to work if you are that sick because i know you will wind up getting it. connell: that's how it spreads around. at the top of the hour we go to nicole petallides for stocks now and every 15 minutes. news on morgan stanley; right? nicole: right, let's take a look at morgan stanley. they are cutting 6% of their workforce. charlie gasparino was the first to report this, but they are going to do some job cuts. we're talking about 1600 jobs within institutional securities. more of the senior employees are probably the ones who will be looked at very closely. half in the
the indecex. brian topeka saying there is a lot of anticipation behind what samsung might unveil next week. that's perhaps weighing on shares of apple in today's trade. hoou are looking for bright spots, take a look at social media. facebook continuing its rise. goldman sackes with a bullish note saying it sees facebook as promising. one of its friends in the social media space, zinga, also mooufing higher. after confirming earlier this week it is shutting down operations of 11 games. freeing up administration on zinga cloud. where it could launch new games in 2013. lastly, a lot of movement ahead of the j.p. morgan health coence next week. which is referred to as the super bowl of healthcare. one of the mover and shakers is expected to be celgene. we are seeing stocks higher than next week. >> thank you seema, very much. >>> to the bond market. find out what traders make of the latest jobs report. not to mention the bullard comment at the top of "power lunch." rick santelli at nyse. hi, rick. >> we were close to 197 1/2. we closed last week at 170. it's been 22 basis point week and for a
, what is the problem? is samsung coming in and eating up their market share? >> i think it is about a lot of different things. samsung a few years ago was a number two, number three player. this last year it has come to dominate the smartphone face. it is number one seller. look the market share in the last quarter. apple has 14.6% market share. melissa: wow. >> down from 23% and now samsung is the number one maker and shipper of global smartphones, 31.3%. this is all in the third quarter, according to idc. on top of this, this morning, smartphone just adds a trump card onto the mix. 100 million phones of the samsung s-series of smartphones. this took samsung less than three years to get to the 100 million unit mark. it took apple four years to do it. it is not able to compete with samsung in the way, not a one-horse show anymore really. >> i still use an old iphone. i think a 4. i wonder if iphone is saturated. i'm perfectly satisfied. is 5 much more fancier. melissa: i know people go in to get one, it is cheaper. there are more samsung options. you get wooed away from the iphone w
between apple and samsung continues in a san jose courtroom. the two companies are fighting over trademark infidgegement claimses -- infringement claims. now apple wants an earlier ruling regarding the nexus smartphone in the u.s. they claim 19 of samsung's devices, including the galaxy and note products used apple patents. last august, a jury awarded apple $1 billion in damages. >>> target is going head to head with online retailers by turning its holiday price matching offer into a year- round promise. the nation's second largest discounter behind walmart announced today it will match prices -- on identical progress for stores like amazon.com. the list includes walmart, best buy, toys 'r' us and babies are us. the move follows disappointing holiday sales because of the online competition. >>> fisher-price is issuing a warning to parents about a possible mold problem for 800,000 newborn rock and play sleepers. that's after 600 reports of mold and treatment for 16 instants with respiratory reactions. parents should check for mold between the suit cushion and the hard plastic frame. if you
and then there's the samsung galaxy, it leads the iphone in sales and shows on its bottom line. in a three-month period, samsung forecast record profits of more than 8 billion dollars. meanwhile, a new cliff approaches faster than we thought. the government runs out of money on february 15th according to one think tank. so here we go again. a new countdown to disaster. deja vu all over again. "varney & company" is about to begin. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapr and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clnts in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. # # >> >> apple may offer a low cost iphone in china the first half of this year from the tech publication digit times. however, the buzz at the consumer electronics show this year is all about samsung. charles payne is with me. i can invest in apple right now instantly. i can't do that with samsung. charles: you can't. there'
saw slow downs. apple and samsung, we love these companies because they had no europe last year, in china, no mexico. now we wish they had all three and there was business formation. let's focus on the other half of the equation. it's a little. where the money is going. last night china heads to one more marketable session. holy cow, courtesy of new attitude. the gold double digit growth is taking up the fxi. follow along, but it is taking up to the ancillary chinese place, like coach. did you see that today. rallying more than $2. we are seeing steady names in big commons. totalling chinese demand, truck demand. this one won't stop climbing. i say watch starbucks which is a gigantic expansion. i think it's going terrific clee. and that stock is taking a hit because of disassociation with the people's of republic, it's coming back strong. nike was hurt but that's becoming a thing of the past and buyers are piling in. the worst is over for certain at least in china. how about winn? nonetheless, steve win has put a lot of resources into mack could you macou. things are getting bet
from samsung, market share numbers are gaining for samsung, apple losing sales as far as the marketshare goes. doesn't that factor into what we hear from the component makers? >> it does and it doesn't. i haven't identified where the cuts are from. in quarter for apple did 50 million iphones. samsung did somewhere around 18 million galaxy, around 8 million note to mack. they did somewhere around 26 million so apple was approximately double samsung's true competitive area. apple does not compete at the low end or the mid-end, only the high-end. apples to apples comparison, apple is still twice the size. cheryl: one man's treasure is another man's trash. and in that kind of goes to apple and rim right now, a big jump in rim stocks given the component makers seeing a scale back from apple. does rim win? >> it is interesting. look at the universe of beaten down tech companies, hp, dell, nokia, that group has performed remarkably well in the last month. it has been stunning actually. we're seeing portfolio managers and hedge fund managers buy these things on high short inte
with cards, but the service will be suspended january 15. samsung's on a roll. in 2013, it could very well widen its marketshare lead over apple. that's what some analysts predict. with its larger multi- tier product lineup, samsung expects to sell 290 million smartphones this year, 75 million more than last year. apple? it hopes to sell 180 million smartphones in 2013. samsun's edge in the market is 33% over apple's 21%. microsoft's windows 8 has not been winning fans, but the u.s. department of defense is on board. the d.o.d. signed a three-year licensing agreement with a microsoft reseller to bring windows 8 and other products to 75% of its staff. the deal is worth about $617 million, and saves the army about $70 million in i.t. costs. the department of defense is already a microsoft customer. well that didn't take long. no sooner did northeast republicans excoriate their brethern in congress for not passing a sandy storm relief bill than the house turned around and passed the bill. the near $10-billion measure was quickly passed in the house on friday and cleared the senate by unanimou
of samsung. >> supply chain did get worked out. >> possible that expectations were too high to begin with? this was a stock last career that could do no wrong and the expickses were possibly at the stage we don't do it rival. injuriesors expects a lot more because they depend on innovation. >> people were kiss accounted on the sale numbers. let are the the competitive land way. i feel like they are in fablet describe. apple is not giving that to them. >> i don't think a lot of people want big-screen phones. what is this galaxy note? it's huge. 5.5 inches. i do agree. they need to get in and release more than one phone a year because ore ways they will get stomped by samsung. be aggressive in china and areas where you can have access to 7.5 million subscribers there. >> the feeling was that steve jobs was apple. are you in denial at this point that losing such a -- i mean, how do you even quantify what he meant to that company in terms of innovation and operation that he's still gone. >> a design guru and going to kweet quality. >> what was steve jobs really good at? not only innovation bu
of an exciting opportunity for people, and do you not then go to samsung which you know are very smart people developing organic led television as well? >> samsung is a wonderful company bringing out wonderful products and i have spent a lot of time with our asian team following samsung that it is easy to underestimate the culture of innovation apple has. we think about the company. the people running apple now are the same folks who help bring out the ipod, iphone, ipad and we'll have more tricks up their sleeve. i expect an apple tv and more screen sizes for the phone and proliferation of the lineup. what could be considered boring is also an attribute for the company when you think about the high repurchasing that people have. you're locked into that ecosystem, you have a 90% repurchase intention and that makes it more of an annuity like business. their prior guest talked about dividends, 2% dividend yield, this is a very stable company with great cash flow. one of the lowest valuations in the entire stock market. liz: there is a rumor out there in a couple of blogs in a couple of articles
it to be different this time i don't know. but now android is samsung there's one guy half of all the units in north america. samsung. >> one company, a south korea company is one half of all the android operating systems in america? >> the same size as apple on a unit basis so if you're an applications developer you look at apple as more attractive because people pay a lot of money for xwraps and not so much on android. part is because there aren't as many apps and they don't work as well because it's harder to make one app work across everything. now that samsung is big i think he developed for samsung only which means google is going to lose control of their own operating system. they've already lost control of the part done by amazon so i would have -- the thing that's so amazing to me is that the big companies have huge opportunities now. microsoft owns skype, the telecommunications, the most important telecom system in the emerging world they have 400 million active users which is more than e number users of windows these days. >> rose: 400 million -- >> like over a hundred million who pay the
of the company say, all right, let's take a hard look before we switch out. >> it's not even apple or samsung. in terms of global market share, the top five, i mean, r.i.m.'s not up there, but zte is up there, along with samsung and apple. it's not just samsung and apple versus r.i.m. at all. it's r.i.m. versus everybody else. >> 79 million subscribers. >> market share for these guys, 5%. two years ago, 20%. i mean, a lot has gone on while they have been trying to get this thing ready. the question is, how much has android and ios taken out of the room. we will see. the presentation at 10:00. jon fortt has tried out the software and is relatively impressed. they'll not show their super bowl ad, so they say. we'll find out. jim, you are the ray lewis of our team today. you're playing hurt. you got the big brace on your arm, but this time it's your voice. you're amazing. >> san francisco, watch out. >> well, talk about missions, let's talk about amazon. set to open at new all-time highs. the online retailer is better than expected profit margins, that is the key story here. as we said earlier a
to competitors, particularly samsung with its popular galaxy smartphone. finally, today there were reports apple dramatically cut orders for iphone 5 components, due to weak demand. to be sure, apple has not confirmed soft sales with hard numbers. but, experts it would not surprise them if consumers were sour on iphone 5. >> it may be significant, we just came through the consumer electronics show and virtually all of the high profile phones that were introduced there had very large screens. some manufacturers like samsung have done very well with screens that are five inches or more in size. the iphone 5 is a four inch screen. >> reporter: apple is still far more profitable than any other consumers electronics firm in the world. but, analyst's celestial expectations have led to a crushing fall for apple shares. since hitting a high of $705 in september, the stock has lost nearly 30%. the selloff has trigged a big debate on wall street. are the shares cheap enough to buy, or is the market darling done? apple bulls argue the gadget maker has a p.e. of just 11. apple bears say the company's days a
significantly. so why fewer iphones? well, perhaps increased competition from samsung. samsung, after all, offers all kinds of different phones. but apple offers just one. cnet speculates maybe apple is just too mainstream these days. it's the phone of the parents instead of the cool teen babysitter. >>> shares in facebook quietly gaining. the company has a press conference tomorrow morning. we don't know what it's going to be about just yet. perhaps some new news on mobile advertising. but facebook stock has quietly turned itself around. it opened this morning at $31 a share. that's a six-month high. and deutsche bank gave it an upgrade, as well. we'll find out more tomorrow. back to you. >> scott, thank you very much. >>> it's been announced today, toyota was the world's top-selling automaker of 2012. the car company selling more than 9.7 million cars and trucks worldwide last year. general motors, which was the top automaker in 2011 sold just under 9.3 million vehicles, still pretty good. both companies seeing higher sales. but toyota's growth was larger, due in part to sales of its ve
of apple has to go someplace else. amazon, like it. >> samsung and the whole supply chain. >> one more check on shares on apple, down by just about 10%. the last time this stock was down 10% during the may flash crash on earnings. it was p12008. having an impact on the qs. i'm melissa lee. see you tomorrow at 9:00 for "squawk on the street." "mad money" with jim cramer starts right now. >>> i'm jim cramer. and welcome to my world. >> you need to get in the game. going out of business and he's nuts! they're nuts! they know nothing! i always like to say there's a bull market somewhere. "mad money," you can't afford to miss it. hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money," welcome to cramerica. other people want to make friends, trying to save you a little money. my job is not just to entertain but to educate and put things in perspective. call me at 1-800-743-cnbc. not everything in the market can be explained by cold hard facts. not everything is rational or even cut and dried or it can even be ascertained with close scrutiny. including today where the dow vaulted 67 points s&p advanced, nas
expensive for them now. which leads me to the question i wanted to ask you. samsung is selling more phones than apple. samsung is still more popular than april until some cases. but apple still does have that cachet. but can apple compete without slashing its price? something steve jobs never wanted to do? >> i think they'll do both. i think they'll produce a regional product that will maybe be limited to china and countries like china. at the same time, apple's success has been from developing new markets and frankly, the samsung phones, courts have said, sure looks like a copy to us. and in this instance, there will be another product classification. there will be another iphone, ipad, itunes, whatever you call it. the next one is coming. there are still products steve jobs was working on before he died that have not yet been introduced. >> and obviously, apple's betting on those. steve jobs died in october of 2011. now, if, and this is a big if, because betting against apple never paid off for anybody, but this apple does have some issues now. turned out to be longer term. are they tim
whether to be like samsung or those guys in nokia that just slashed the dividend. and what we heard wednesday from apple and last night from samsung is a tale of woe that you could argue says smartphones have become saturated. everybody who needs a smartphone has one and now they're even trading down, not even buying expensive smartphones. qualcomm has got a heavy burden as it's going to have to tell us if that's the case, if there really is saturation. it has to tell us because it's the semiconductor brain for so much of the next generation of smartphones. this is the most important call of the week. and it might be when you can start buying apple if it hasn't bottomed by then. not that i want you in it but people do keep asking me. and please understand that apple is going from growth stock to value stock and that's often an ugly journey. okay? there's clip joints along the road and a lot of speed traps you know, the with r5idar guns. thursday is a day made for "mad money." and we think lightning could strike, possibly more than once. we have said recently that three companies who
a samsung supplies almost 500. we think if apple do sign with major carriers like china mobile, like ntd.com, that can be a driver. then finally one more thing that can juice earnings is to have $137 billion of cash. $40 billion of that is on -- we expect the company to become more aggressive with the cash distribution and buybacks over the next 12 to 18 months. in terms of -- this is where i do agree with the other speaker. it is going to take time to repair this. we think an iphone 5 refresh comes out in june. a low end iphone which i would highlight is not in anybody's estimates today may come out in september. and the buybacks in q4. but the issue being there's not much in the next few months. even i would concede. >> jeff, what about all that? a lot of positives for apple here. >> let's talk about china growth for a minute. emerging market growth in general is going to have a lot to do with the price point that apple is going to be able to deliver their products. when we saw walmart come out with the iphone and prices lower, you had to see that there was an issue in margins. i would
. also samsung's forecast for 2013 capital expenditures that will be very similar to those of 2012. amat, applied materials up over 2%. that group is doing very well. there's been a lot of speculation that maybe samsung would cut the cap ex, but they are not doing that, and that certainly gives these chip equipment stocks a nice bounce here. it just shows that they have a good road ahead of them here for 2013 because demand is hot and high and it pushes these stocks to the upside. back to you. cheryl: nicole, thank you very much. see you very soon. look inside your portfolio right now, open it up right now, get to your computer. the success of the stocks you own depends very much in part on the people leading those companies. ceos with a vision who partake in the world's conversation to learn how to grow and prosper. liz claman is at the global conversation going on right now with one of those ceos. she's in switzerland at the world economic forum. liz: cheryl, we are all very busy here in davos running around but easily one of the top five busiest people is the chairman and ceo of dow c
generation smartphones. but sales figures say it's fallen behind samsung. possibly even lg worldwide. meanwhile, a federal judge says apple's ceo tim cook will have to testify about allegations apple entered a secret agreement with other tech companies not to steal each other's employees some years ago. this morning the former head of palm told reuterses that then-apple ceo steve jobs actually threatened to hit palm with expensive patent suits if it kept hiring apple executives. it's easy to forget it wasn't that long ago palm actually worried apple. they were very early to smartphones and nabbed a number of very talented apple leaders. back to you. >> scott mcgrew, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> first came the fire and then the ice. >> that's right. this is what the weather caused. a chicago warehouse gutted by flames now just looks like an ice castle. it was so cold when firefighters were dousing the abandoned warehouse with water and it turned into ice instantly. this happened last night in chicago. a five-alarm fire ripping through the building. temperatures dipping to a
along with some warnings on the strength of gloeg global demand coming from the likes of samsung. will i sixuan has plenty more from singapore. >> thank you, kelly. let's start with japan. that market yet begin took center stage in asia. december cpi came in at minus 0.2% piling more pressure on the boj to beat deflation and eventually meet that 2% inflation target. the boj jumped nearly 3% and it's up for the 11th straight week. that's the longest winning streak in about 42 years. the japanese yen weakened to a fresh 2 1/2 year low against the green back. that's fueled a strong rally in exporter stocks. shares in china gave back strong gains earlier ending down by 0.5%. chinese stocks led losses of prot taking after north korea warned us more rocket launches and a nuclear test. the weakness in the mainland dragged the hang seng lower by just a touch. china mobile shares slipped for the fifth straight sessions. elsewhere, south korea shares pulled back for the third straight session, down almost 1% today. suppliers, they continued to tumble. samsung electronics lost 2.5% despite record e
, but competition is getting, you know, i mman, look at samsung, doing very well, and that's the biggest challenge for apple is beating down the competition? >> they are really the only competitor, is samsung. look at the last few years, apple's grown stronger, samsung grows stronger. nokia is perhaps weaker, and hd is struggling. others did well in certain markets. ashley: looking at the numbers, samsung predicted to carve out 33% chunk of the market this year. that's up. apple shares up, 21% or 20% last year. you're saying, look, there's only two playerings here so there's plenty of food to go around for the competitors? >> yeah, it's a great place. there's only two players in the market in my view, and i think what we'll start to see apple do with the next iphone is that we're going to add colors. ashley: think it could be in the summer perhaps? >> a may or june. ashley: talk of an iphone mini, i don't know if you heard about it, but caters to the noncontract phone operators, $250 range allowing people to get the iphone experience. that's something that's good for apple, do you think? >> so we
.;@ >> taiwan's new year's celebration did not come without controversy. samsung electronics offered over a million dollars to light up city skyscrapers. samsung from south korea that. is taiwan technology rival. taiwan tourism officials block that had deal. >> look at that light display. p that works enough, the nation is also fired the prague fill harmonic-to-during celebrations. getting a bird's eye view of the show, $4300 a person. >> just moments ago, london welcomed the new year over the river thames. bells from big ben rang loudly. it caps a big dear for london. >> they're not going to have as much fun as we are with fire works on the embark dareo coming up, new apps helping smart phone users stick to their new year's resolution autos an animal fight caught on camera. what experts say was behind this battle. >> as mount tam camera. clouds in the sky. they should not interfere with our viewing. i'm spencer christian n midnight forecast coming up. >> want to check the traffic this, is a live view of the golden gate bridge. everybody heading into san francisco is running into traffic.
that samsung has come on very strong. when you go to a resaler, the sales for samsung are much stronger than they used to be. i think this shift has got to be acknowledged. as henry blodgett said, the stock is inexpensive. when you have something that is old news, new news, it doesn't matter, there is a continuing recognition that something is just not as great at apple that it used to be. >> i think we can make the argument all day and all night, the valuation, cash on hand, dividend that apple is paying. at the same time you can make that case for a lot of other tech stocks out there. they pay a dividend and yet the stocks don't move much anymore. and i'm thinking of like a microsoft, for instance. >> well, i was just reiterating what henry was saying. >> right. >> i feel that, again, there's a lot of things that are subtly wrong with apple. the new itune iteration is just hated. i don't know a soul who likes it. it's very clear that there are real issues involving the ipad mini and whether it's as exciting as it used to be. there is no omg factor. it's just -- frankly, as my daughter said
the way to the bank. apple has real competition from samsung. with an android operating system with the visionaries from google. sure the market's big, but samsung's beating apple in cell phone share and perhaps more important, apple's phones may not be good enough to take that share back. tablets are terrific. but apple's lost the invinceability that extends to the tablet market. apple has compounded the problem by releasing a faulty map app, a new cord, and i like the old one, and a disliked itunes iteration. it's no longer the only game in town. amazon's total addressable market if it can perfect same-day delivery, which it is going to do with all of these warehouses, is literally all of retail, everything, everything sold at costco, walmart, supermarket, department store, food store, hardware store around the globe. maybe one day selling houses and boats if u.p.s. can figure out a way to deliver them. the addressable market may be no longer than the personal computer and cell phone replacement segment. and many think in a few years, those markets will be saturated. nobody w
of blowout quarter we were used in the past. they do face more competition from samsung on the high end. to that extent they need to step up the game a little bit. i think that is the biggest takeaway. david: steve jobs, i know it is unfair to compare him to steve jobs but hey, you have to compare him with his predecessor. steve jobs was always a leader. his products were always leading the market. wasn't so much what was in it. everybody had access to the stuff and chips and everything in it. it was the product he brought forth that was so different that led the market. a lot of people see tim cook as a follower, not a leader. is that a fair or unfair comparison? >> i think that's, i think that could be a fair comparison. certainly each investor has to make their own opinion. i do think it is too early to seal the tim cook legacy based on one quarter miss and certainly a little bit over a year after his death. you know i think innovation can still come back with this company. 47, 48 million units of iphones sales may be a couple million lighter than consensus and not in that range but
for the oleds? >> we already are. we supply glass for use in o leds by small form factor like samsung phones. you saw consumer electronics. we make a glass for them. we have the potential of our willow glass, the ultrathin bendable glass to be used in oleds. we're expecting to see that come. liz: fascinating to watch the glass bend. we could see that you can actually, david, bend it. it is so cool. fascinating to see the ingunt, the american ingupt, -- ingenuity, for a company that has been around. my mom had corning ware. remember the dishs? it morphed into quite the business of the as you look at a global business such as corning, you look at currency fluctuations. analysts are a little concerned about this. you have a very weak yaen and some issues that do face you are these currency fluctuations. how are you hedging? how are you going to manage that? are you going to change your strategy? >> we've always disclosed the impact to the end to our investors and analysts. this doesn't come as a surprise. liz: right. >> i think it was the very sharp weakening of the yen from 80 to 90 in the mon
on your apple hat, all right? they would rather do business with samsung's chip, even though samsung is their biggest competitor, than switch to intel. >> what are we missing? there's uniform negativity here. we'll look back on it at end of this year and say, wait a second, we should have thought of that. >> don't throw that. >> that pc was bad, and they had every right to go out the window. all right, i've calmed down. >> there's no hope? >> anytime you have that budget, you can do it. i like stacy very much. it's a great manufacturer. there's hope. >> okay. >> there's hope. same level of hope. silver lining theory i call it. >> okay. when we come back, a wall street analyst known for being a longtime bear on netflix. and from textbook reynolds to the linked-in for college students, we'll talk to former yahoo! ceo. [ "i'm only human" plays ] humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't
to buy an apple tablet but people in this world that will buy the cool pad 8060 for $100. >> that samsung phone and like the wider screen. the wider screen. >> the important thing is listen to the discussion we are having, about another company. >> i know we want to get to netflix as well. three of six quarters i believe they have missed since he has taken over, two of the last three. jobs was 11 straight and 19 of 20 quarters where they overdelivered. now, put that in some perspective for us in terms of conservative guidance. when does pressure build on him? >> now. already. no? >> we are a long way from that. a long way. >> do you think -- let me ask you, do you think four months ago, the company was a better company than it is now? >> no i think it's the same company. >> same company, right? so then why do you want to pay so much? >> other companies are not the same company. >> samsung is not the same company. google is not the same company. >> interestingly, to put today into some perspective, the last gap down for apple was july 22, 2008. so mornings light this don't happen lot. also
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